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You love to travel. You know that travel can be a force for good but you also know that it is contributing to environmental challenges which will affect our future generations. We get it. You feel conflicted and guilty and so do we!

But there is hope. That’s why we created this podcast; to help you to understand both the issues and the opportunities around travel so that we can all be better informed about the good, the bad and the downright ugly in travel.

Each week, we speak to prominent leaders in the global travel industry to learn their thoughts, insights and opinions as to how we can all travel a little better so that future generations can also have hope for a better future.

Oh, and if you’re looking for environmental doom and gloom, look elsewhere. We are realistic about the climate crisis but we are here to offer hope and optimism. Every small step forward, is a giant stride, when we all step together.

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Mwanase Ahmed, CEO of Distant Relatives Ecolodge & Backpackers, talks about the property, their ethos and their journey towards sustainability.

This episode was recorded live at the fabulous Distant Relatives Ecolodge & Backpackers in Kilifi, Kenya.

With numerous awards and accolades to it’s name, Gerard was keen to visit Distant Relatives after meeting up with today’s guest at the Sustainable Africa Tourism Summit recently. We hear so many examples of high end luxury properties being super sustainable and regenerative and we are mindful that there are far more travellers and indeed properties without high end budgets yet dedicated to more eco options.

After a full tour of the property and a wonderful 2 night stay, Gerard sat down with Distant Relatives’ CEO, Mwanase Ahmed, to learn more about the property, their ethos and their journey, all of which you will hear in this podcast. Gerard was absolutely in love with what they have created here in this beautiful part of Kenya.

If you’d like to learn more about Distant Relatives, then we would encourage you to visit

And you can join Mwanase, Distant Relatives and hundreds more like-minded people and organisations by joining Climate Friendly Travel and indeed become an ambassador by signing up free of charge to join The SUNx Registry at or email us at This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

That’s our show for this week. Thanks so much for your company and remember, when it comes to Climate Friendly Travel, every small step forward, is giant stride when we all step together…


Geoffrey Lipman, SUNx Co-founder